Date returned

Resubmission Letter

Nicoletta della Ridolfi

<Deodar>

NAME & DEVICE

Device: Conflicts -

This design is basically, "Azure semy of harps, a cat sejant guardant argent." Consider the armory of Jordre Pargon of Windhover's Reach (registered December 1982 via Atlantia): Azure, a snow leopard sejant argent, spotted sable.  No difference is given for the head positions (default vs guardant) of whole animals. The spotting or striping on a critter does not count unless it makes up at least half of the tincture. Thus you have a white sitting feline on a blue field versus a white sitting feline on a blue field with a white harps.  There is a CD for the white harps vs no white harps…but unless the spots on the snow leopard make up half the tincture of it, there is no second CD to clear conflict.

Name: Arval's "Feminine Given Names from the Online Catasto of Florence of 1427" (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/catasto/) has <Niccola> once and <Niccolosa> 34 times.  I was unable to find any evidence for <Nicoletta> as a plausible medieval Italian name.

Past registration is no guide to present registerability.  <Ridolfo> is found 231 times in Aryanhwy's "Italian Given Names from the Online Tratte of Office Holders 1282- 1532(http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/florence1282-1532.html); it's a masculine given name.  <Ridolfi> or <di Ridolfo> are the two properly constructed patronyms based on this given name. 

We find “Nicolette”dated to 1508 in the on-line article “Late Period French Feminine Names” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael. url: http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/latefrench.html  Changing the final “e” to an “a” does not make the Italian form of the name, as in Withycombe, pg. 217, sub Nicola, Nicolette; states: "Italian and French forms of Nicholas (q.v.). Nicholaa is not infrequent in medieval Latin records, but is no doubt merely a latinization of Nicholas when borne by a woman, who would in the vernacular have been simply Nicol or Nicolas. Nicole, Nicolette, Colette are fairly common in France and are occasionally borrowed in England."  The name is also cited from Dauzat, Dictionaire des Noms de Famille et Prenoms de France, pg 451 s.n. Nicolas;  "The feminine "Nicole+, -olle" (baptismal name returned to popularity and a matronym) is very old, as is the diminutive Nicollette (12th Century)."

Since client requests authenticity and allows any changes, we are sending this to Laurel as "Nicolette Ridolfi."

Talib al-Azhar

<Flynthyll>

NAME

Talib al-Azhar. [Name] Talib is found in the names of Abu Talib; Talib ibn al-Azhar (Dodge, the Fihrist of al-Nadim, vol. 2, p. 1107).  It is a fine, if not especially common, ‘ism.

As for al-Azhar, however: “Yes, well, I know that John is only documented as being used as a given name, but I wish to use it as a byname.”  Al-Azhar is well-documented being used as an ‘ism in the names of Abu al-Azhar; Abu Bakr Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn Mazid ibn Abi al-Azhar [ibn Abi al-Azhar means “the son of the father of al-Azhar”; Abi is not a given name with al-Azhar being used as a cognomen]; Ja’far ibn Abi Muhammad ibn al-Azhar; Talib ibn al-Azhar; Talut ibn al-Azhar, all found in the Fihrist, vol. 2, pp. 967, 1107-1108.  We have not found its use as other than an ‘ism.  He might be Talib ibn al-Azhar, but we have no documentary support for the submitted form of the name.

Thus, the name is not registerable as submitted and the proper form of the name is already given as an example of an actual name in the source used to document the name as period.

Ceara inghean Faoláin

<Deodar>

Dylan Mac Matanban

<Vatavia>

Alys de Wilton [Fieldless] An equal-armed Celtic cross Or. Registered 4/92.

Eldric Trystam

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Ysoria Chaloner

<Coer d'Ennui>

Iulia Briseis

<Coeur d'Ennui>

NAME

DEVICE

3/29/2006

Device returned for redraw:
The enflaming is not drawn properly. The 01/2005 LoAR (AEthelmearc-R) says:
"Morgan of Caer Graeme. Badge. Azure, a fess embattled Or and overall a sword proper enflamed gules.

"This badge must be returned for redrawing because of problems with the enflaming of the sword. While precedent holds that properly drawn enflaming, small gouttes of flame issuing from the charge, is a blazonable artistic detail and can violate the contrast rules found in RfS VIII.2, in this case, the flames are entirely disconnected from the sword and appear to "float" on the low-contrast field. Recent precedent deals with a very similar case involving flames proper: "The "flames" that are not attached to the sword are each of a single tincture; those that are gules break the Rule of Tincture. Objects that are enflamed should have small gouts of flames emerging from, but still touching, the object at random intervals" [Stephen Other, 10/04, R-Artemesia].

As drawn, these are neither small gouttes of flame, nor are they attached to the annulet, so this is not an annulet enflamed.

Device: (see Return Julia da Brescia)

Maelgwn Pen

<Axed Root>

DEVICE

Ian Logan

<Heraldshill>

NAME

DEVICE

Rani the Scribe

<Ivory Keep>

NAME

DEVICE

There is no CD for changing the type or tincture of just one out of four charges.

The information on the LoI doesn't provide evidence for <Llanrhaedr-Ym-Mochnant> as the period form of the name, or any support for the use of the entire compound place name as a byname.  In other languages like English, German, and Spanish the compound forms of place names were not used in locative bynames, only the initial element was. Locative bynames which use compound place names are not registerable in these languages.  In French, the practice can be documented, and is registerable, so documentation would have to be supplied in the Welsh case before a compound pattern would be registerable.

The place name doens't occur in Johnson's _Place Names of England and Wales_, nor in John Garnons Williams's "Wales At The Time Of The Treaty Of Montgomery In 1267" (http://www.gwp.enta.net/walhist.html), so I can't
offer any period forms of the name.

Conflict: Morgan MacDonnough Per bend sinister azure and argent, an owl displayed and a decrescent counterchanged. Registered 01/1994
One CD for changing the decrescent to a rose, but that's it. If there was a CD for changing an owl displayed to a falcon displayed, this would still only be one CD for changing the type of all the primary
charges, and since the types haven't been substantially changed, this is not clear by X.2.

"We no longer register annulets of flames" [LoAR, 12/1998, Ansteorra-R, Wiesenfeuer, Barony of]

This isn't quite a turnip proper.  The 02/2006 LoAR says: "Ysabelot Clarisse.  Device. Or, a turnip purpure, leaved vert and on a chief gules three bees proper.
   Period depictions of turnips show less leaf in proportion to the bulb of the turnip. Blazoned on the LoI as a turnip proper, this turnip is predominantly purpure with a small argent tip. Period heraldic turnips appear to be primarily argent with vert leaves; some emblazons show a purpure cap. Proper for a turnip is the top half of the turnip purpure and the bottom half argent (with a somewhat wavy line of division) with vert leaves; neither the purpure nor the argent should predominate. The argent tip on a purpure turnip need not be blazoned, nor does a purpure cap on an argent turnip as both are considered artistic details. This overturns Laurel's advice from July 1988 when accepting Roger de Bayeux's device: "We would strongly suggest, however, that they be drawn so that the purple portion of the root is predominant."
   The turnip leaves should be about a quarter to a half of the total charge. Due to the variability in size of the leaves, the tincture of the leaves does not contribute to tincture difference. This is similar to our treatment of a rose's slip and leaves."

Maximillian Johann von Kleve 

" ...While the name Teleri does appear in the Arthurian tale "Culhwch ac Olwen," an examination of this story shows that the name occurs once in passing when a character swears by a long list of names and events. Current precedent is to accept the names of significant characters from period Arthurian literature. However, Teleri is just a name mentioned in the course of the tale; it is not even the name of a character. Barring documentation that the name was used by humans in period, or that it is the name of a significant period literary character, it cannot be registered. [Eleri Cadard, September 2004]" [LoAR 07/2005]"